A number of vehicles have been explored and one of our favoured ones currently is eBackpack. Fiona has made innovative use of Wikispaces too.
Workflow - advice welcomeFrom: Lucy Gallagher
Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 at 7:54am
So sorry you're having to spend so much time on this. Another lovely Fiona - Fiona Hunter - has been in touch and has offered to look into webDav for us. I really like your idea of using WikiSpaces and I see you have already done a great deal to populate it. I love the Reading Conferencing notes particularly - a great reference for the pupils, and also for parents. Great way to set homework tasks too. Well done innovative thinker!
You have cleverly set it up to be closed to your community only, with restricted access to different members in place, depending on task and materials. I hope you won't mind me posting this is Basecamp, but I think workflow is a crucial element in the project and one that would be good to seek advice upon to get right since there are so many ways to go about it. I've had a wee look and tried out some things on your iPad Discussion page. Once you click Edit you can copy and paste text from Pages to the wiki but it loses the formatting. To add a file, image or video you upload and then click on the one you want before clicking embed. It will show up on the page after you save. Looks like it will do what you want it to do but I'm not sure if there is a limit on file size when uploading. I had no idea you could add video and audio to a wiki - how fab!
It may be that purchasing iFiles is a way to go too because workflow has to be manageable and not take up inordinate amounts of your time. Thank you for all your hard work on this and it would be good to sit down together this week and have a proper chat about it.
Sorry to keep going on about this but...
I have spent HOURS on this now and still have no working solution.
I have created a private class wiki (free for educators!) and (partially) set it up for a couple of things, one of which is reading conferencing. I have a project for each reading group and wanted the kids to do their work in pages or some other app then either upload their pages file or upload a screenshot from whatever app they've chosen to use. No need for emails - each child gets a username and password. Will add you to it for info.
Sounds good so far?
BUT it doesn't work.
Firstly I can't find a way to upload a file from Pages. Can get around this with kids entering their work direct onto the wiki page; this can be a bit fiddly from the iPad, but is a way round for plain text.
Secondly I can't upload a photo. Tried to get around that with <copy photo> then <paste> while editing a page on the wiki. The photo appears at first but is then replaced by a question mark when you save or preview the page. Can't find a way round this. I'd hoped the iPads would allow the children to select different ways of completing tasks/demonstrating what they know, but it's no good if they can't share their work.
I've had a look for an App to help, c.f. Blogger/Facebook/etc, but I can't find anything.
From trawling the web it would appear that there are several American schools using iPads, so there must be a way to make this whole sharing work business work. Perhaps we just have to go with email/apple ids?
Re using GLOW emails- some of my class could not get into Glow when we tried to use it in the first term. We might need to look into that again?
Is there a decent storage allocation on their email accounts?
Would we be better to have the parents create them an email then they have the password and can check their child's account any time? That's how we handled email with our own kids.
Re video content- looks like we'll have to get them to upload to Vimeo? Perhaps we could set up a private-to-the-class Vimeo site/group/whatever it's called.
Am well fed up with this. :(
Yes Google Drive needs email accounts. I think we should issue their Glow email accounts which would work an we would have a copy. We could also request council individual email accounts or you could use their council class email account for generic things. We have free WikiSpace account for educators already and it's free.
Learning>At Home>1:1 for our Wikispace.
Won't google drive require the kids to have email accounts?
I looked into setting up a class wiki. It can be done without them having emails BUT looks like it would cost (not sure exactly how much) if we wanted it to be completely private. I think it ought to be private when there is a possibility of kids uploading personal information accidentally, eg putting their own address in a letter they're writing,... Perhaps I worry too much?
Simon told me that Standard Life host their wiki in their intranet. Don't suppose the council have anything similar that you know of?
Just had email about Google Drive for online storage - 5GB
Do I have permissions/ access to create the new Class account? (see below)
If so.. How do I do that? It's not obvious (one of my main feeling about glow).
This is from the 'aye learning' blog:
Here is a solution using Glow. However it will work equally well with any other WebDAV server. (Other posts will look at how this may be set up.)
First we need to set up the server in Glow
Create a generic class account (pupil) in glow.
Turn off everything. (email, etc)
Enable web hosting.
Log in to Glow with this account and request a website (see Glow help)
Get the site approved and at the same time ask for a reasonable amount of space. The default 50 Mb is a bit small
Now we need to create a folder for each pupil on the Glow server.
Using an FTP programme, (FileZilla or coreftp lite) log in to the web space and create a folder for each pupil using their first name. (No capital letters or spaces)
Also create folders for the teacher. Eg. Homework. Etc..
The FTP address will be ftp1.glowscotland.org.uk
Now set up the teachers iPad
Not that easy to find but was comment in response to 'note of caution with workflow'
I've had a look through BaseCamp and I can't find the stuff about GLOW that you were talking about.
Can you help me find it please?
I'm not sure how iCloud fits with this - Wendy had that operational on the first set of iPads but we reckoned the automatic syncing was slowing up the network.
Filing pupils workFrom: Wendy French
Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 at 10:59am
I thought it might be useful to share how I am filing pupil work. I have decided after playing about with both apps that I prefer Readdledocs to iFiles. Readdledocs can be temperamental in that it freezes sometimes but that is easily sorted by shutting the app. I can't quite remember why I pulled away from ifiles. I think it was because I preferred being able to open emails in the Readdle app and that it seemed to be easier to open more things in Readdle. Apologies if I am being unfair to iFiles and just haven't persevered with it long enough.
In Readdledocs I have opened up the email that the children send their work to and have also created a file for each child. Just to make it easy to find things I have created sub files in each of their files e.g. Olympics, Maths, Language, Art. I then created a spreadsheet so that I could see whose work I had and what was missing. There are about 6 or 7 people in my class who only got their email set up last week so I will catch up with them and sort them out tomorrow while they have Spanish.
I now have two things to sort out:
How they will file their work on their devices?
What to do with video which takes up a lot of space.
I am thinking that I might use one of the free hp printer apps for them to use as a filing system to avoid the excessive cost of buying an app 30 times, or having to pay for a bigger memory allowance on Dropbox. Cost issues certainly help a teacher to look for creative solutions (which are good to share as they can take a bit of time to find), I think we will put our videos on Vimeo and any that they are not willing to share in Dropbox.
Any thoughts or suggestions always gratefully received.
Great, John. Thank you so much for looking into this so carefully. Bit manic at school just now but will try out your suggestions asap.